Israel's enemies always want one more concession, now to admit it was "wrong" defending itself from the Mavi Marmara terrorists

Stabbed Israeli soldier , Reuters photoshopped out the knife/blood

Knife held by 'non-violent' IHH 'charity worker'

Obama instructed Israel's PM Netanyahu to apologize for having killed turkish terrorists who had violently attacked its initial boarding party who had been armed with paintball guns. Obama even stood by while Netanyahu made the call to Obama's best friend Erdogan..

The boarding party had been enforcing a legal blockade of Gaza to stop the importation by ship of even more massive amounts of military hardware than they already had. The boarding party had already taken over 5 boats peacefully, but the Mavi Marmara boat was different. The IHH 'charity' terrorists sponsored by Turkey's government were determined to have a fight, and beat to a pulp the soldiers who came on the ship.

Israel maintained that it had done no wrong, but in the interests in peace with the USA, and with Turkey agreed to apologize and pay compensation.

Netanyahu is no fool and knew that to make an agreement with an islamist government is to build castles on sand. And now we see it, yet again. Turkey is now saying that although the money Israel is offering in compensation to the families of the terrorists, Israel must again make an admission, that it was in the wrong. Turkey is determined to rub Israel's nose in the mud.

The Turkish government, in the best traditions of the islamist always hangs out the carrot of peace and reconciliation, if only the infidel will go one extra step, debase himself one more time.

 The Jewish state, he said, must acknowledge that the money it is paying to the victims is a result of its committing a wrongful act.

Such an admission will of course be the basis of the opening of legal proceedings against Israel in the International Criminal Court, another islamist front in the war against Israel and the West.

 But just in case Netanyahu is forced to do even that and make this statement, the fallback position is ready already so that Turkey will be able to withold the expected normalizing of relations with Israel.

“There are two problematic areas. The first one is that Israel should accept that it’s paying this money as a result of its wrongful act. Nothing less than this will be accepted. And second, we are waiting for them to realize our third condition of cooperating with Turkey in making life conditions easier for Palestinians.

Yes, the 'palestinians', the trusty get out clause. Israel can follow all the twists and turns of the turkish islamist mindset, make the apology again, set itself up for endless lawfare against it with its admissions, pay compensation, yet still find as with the mirage, that reconciliation with Turkey is still over the horizon, because of the palestinian arabs.

When will Israel learn? Hopefully Netanyahu will resist the temptation to try that little bit harder, make that one extra 'painful concession.'

With the islamist the concessions are always one sided, with an aim to weakening the infidel. Israel must resist this taqqiya tactic of holding out the hope of peace.

Israel must resist despite the relentless pressure of the evil Obama regime for Israel to give up essential positions and territory.


Turkey’s Deputy Prime Minister says his country will not be satisfied with Israel simply paying compensation to the Marmara victims.
 By Elad Benari

Despite Israel’s apology to Turkey over the Mavi Marmara incident and the talks on compensation to the victims, Turkey is continuing to make reconciliation between the two countries difficult.

On Wednesday, Turkey’s Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said that his country will not be satisfied with Israel simply paying compensation to the Marmara victims. The Jewish state, he said, must acknowledge that the money it is paying to the victims is a result of its committing a wrongful act.

“In our first meeting [the Israelis] showed no opposition to this. But in the second meeting, they intended to give an ex gratia payment as a form of reparation because they fear compensation [as a result of their wrongful act] will set an example for other cases, which is not a concern to us,” Arinc was quoted by the Turkish daily Hurriyet as having told Ankara bureau chiefs.

“The amount of money is not the problem,” Arinc explained, according to the Hurriyet. “There are two problematic areas. The first one is that Israel should accept that it’s paying this money as a result of its wrongful act. Nothing less than this will be accepted. And second, we are waiting for them to realize our third condition of cooperating with Turkey in making life conditions easier for Palestinians. We are not talking about the amount of money as our first two conditions have not been met.”

He added, “We are not going to rush for the money. Israel has to accept its wrongful act. Otherwise we will not say ‘yes’ to them.”

Under pressure from U.S. President Barack Obama, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu apologized in March to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan for the deaths of nine Turks in the 2010 flotilla.

Netanyahu, in addition to the apology, agreed to compensate the families of the nine Turks, while Erdogan promised to cancel the legal proceedings his country launched against IDF officials.

The nine Turks died when Israeli commandos staged a raid on a six-ship flotilla seeking to violate Israel's naval blockade of Gaza on May 31, 2010.

They died on the Mavi Marmara, which refused Israeli orders to dock at the Ashdod Port. When the ship refused, the commandos boarded it, encountering violence from the members of the IHH organization who were on board and who attacked them with clubs and knives. The soldiers had no choice but to open fire.

Reports have indicated that Israeli and Turkish officials have made progress in talks on compensation for the Marmara incident, but a deal is yet to be finalized.

If an agreement can be reached between Turkey and Israel, said Arinc, it will be brought to Parliament as an international agreement and will have an effect on ongoing cases opened against the Israeli state by the victims’ families.

“There cannot be two separate legal attempts to seek compensation. If the governments agree, it will cover [the victims’] demand for compensation as well,” he explained.

One of the flotilla participants from the Mavi Marmara has already indicated he would give all the compensation money he receives to Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists.

A poll released earlier this month found that Israelis are unhappy with the apology to Turkey. 85% of respondents said the chances of their going on vacation to Turkey in the near future are very low.

Only 28% of Israelis believe that relations between Israel and Turkey under Erdogan will improve in the near future, while 42% think relations will stay the same and 30% believe they will deteriorate further.

Most Israelis (71%) believe Israel's apology to Turkey was not justified, while only 29% think it was, the poll found.



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IHH terrorists are described as 'victims' in Ynet and Times of Israel

The knife wielding terrorists who stabbed this Israeli soldier on the Mavi Marmara are now 'victims'

The Times of Israel is a newly formed news website established by the former editor of the Jerusalem Post. As with the JP much of the content is taken from the news syndicates which overwhelmingly have an anti-Israel agenda. It might be expected that israeli journalists would used this material carefully, as they understand that the serried ranks of foreign journalists in Israel are not there to report anything good about the country, but have been indoctrinated to twist any story to Israel's detriment. The Mavi Marmara is no exception as Reuters doctoring of the above picture shows:

Reuters doctored this photo of the stabbed israeli soldier on Mavi Marmara to take away the blood and the knife held by an IHH terrorist

So a news item about the families of the terrorists killed on the Mavi Marmari is of course begun with a not so subliminal statement about turks having suffered from  'israeli brutality'. The AP report describing as 'victims' those who attacked israeli soldiers fails to mention that the soldiers boarded the Mavi Marmari only with paintball guns at the ready. Israel's soldiers who were attacked by gangs of trained thugs even as they boarded the Mavi-Marmara in furtherance of a legal blockade of Hamas missile smuggling into Gaza were the real victims.

Any story with an anti-Israel slant will be copied to the four corners of the earth by Reuters, AP and AFP.

But when a jewish journalist reporting for an israeli newspaper uses such material, can she not at least reword the misleading first paragraph and title to make it more accurate, to reflect the real facts? After all, Michal Shmulovich claims credit for stories she reposts under her name.

Being a jewish journalist in Israel Michal Shmulovich is certainly aware of how foreign journalists design reports so as to condemn Israel from the beginning.

Last first headlines are a favorite method to have Israel condemned as the aggressor from the very start, even against the facts of the versame article (further explained at BBC watch):

Israel Fires Missile Into Syria After Israeli Soldiers Come Under Attack (AP)

It really is too much to expect an msm journalist to write a headline such as 'Israel responds to attack..........'
That would not have the desired effect.

 Most people will not read a whole story, so the headline and the first paragraph must be made to drive the arraignment of Israel home, even if the true facts are buried somewhere near the end. This is a favorite trick of Reuters and BBC.
  
By Michal Shmulovich

"Families of the victims of the Israeli raid on the Mavi Marmara in May 2010 are objecting to compensation talks between Turkey and Israel, saying the Jewish state must first fully lift its blockade of the Gaza Strip.

 Below there is an article about how jews have supposedly attacked arabs. We have the accusation against Samarian jews, but only at the end are the palestinian arab accusers being mentioned. Anyone who knows anything about Pallywood knows that nearly all 'incidents' between jews living in Judea and Samaria, 'settlers' are staged, that there is a whole industry of false accusations against Israel. Where there are actual incidents you can bet your bottom dollar that it was begun by arabs. There is at least one new pallywood production each week so it's hard to keep track of them all. Arabs engage in arson of Israeli forests all the time, so why not accuse jews of having done it to arabs? Here they forgot that jews mustn't light fires on the jewish sabbath, the the mass media don't mind.  Anything will be picked up on and published:

HEBRON, June 2, 2012 (WAFA) – Israeli settlers from Ramat Yishai settlement in the southern West Bank city of Hebron Saturday set fire to ancient olive trees in Tel Rumeida

What rarely gets reported are the endless attacks on jewish villages, sometimes with the tragic results seen at Itamar with the massacre of the Fogel family. Jews are daily attacked with stones, knives, guns and firebombs. And when they are reported, the arab attackers are described as 'non-violent protesters', an attempt to minimise the significance of the attacks.

"At least seven Palestinian children were injured Sunday south of Nablus after settlers threw stones at them, according to Palestinian sources.

Eight Palestinian girls were lightly injured by settlers from Yitzhar who whisked rocks in their direction and then drove away, AFP reported, quoting an unnamed Palestinian Authority official.

There is an arab war against Israel going on in Judea and Samaria, aided and abetted by the world's press.

Is this soldier really abusing a palestinian child in this picture flashed around the world by the networks? Photographers don't publish what came before

Yep, it's the very same girl, very well trained to provoke the response that will gain the all important response

Give her credit, she does try hard. Watch the video for more, and never again be fooled by Pallywood

Once you've seen this video, you'll understand just who are the aggressors in Judea and Samaria, and the role of the press in building up the lie of arab victimhood. The press and other adults are encouraging the children to work to get that one precious shot of an israeli manhandling a child. That will then be flashed around the world:



AFP, Reuters, BBC and the rest are not interested in the serious attacks on jews, such as that on baby Adele who is fighting for her life after a rock was thrown at her car. Asher Palmer's murder was similarly ignored by the world's press. When jews are attacked that is of no interest. If Israel or jews reply, then that is immediately a news item.

The msm will not publicize the true facts in Judea and Samaria, something that the 'low intensity conflict report' does.

I reproduce the first day of the latest report below:

This is a partial report of the on-going terror attacks against Israel.

8-15.4.2013

Israeli policeman injured in his head near the Lions Gate in the Old City of Jerusalem, woman injured at El Arub, IDF reserve soldier injured in his face by rocks in Hursa Mishulash, IDF soldier injured from rocks in Ba'alin
*Senior members of Jihad Terror Organization arrested by Security Forces in Hevron Area
*Near Shomron Brigade Headquarters terrorist possessing 3 explosive devices and 5 Molotov cocktails
*Arab caught armed with knife near Ptizael in the Jordan Valley
*Terrorist armed with knife caught near the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hevron, he admitted to planning a terror attack
*3 improvised grenades thrown at Security forces at Kever Rachel
Molotov Attacks:
3 at vehicle near Anata, 3 at Security forces at Bodrus, 1 at Security forces near Ma'aleh Hahamisha, 1 at vehicle near Ma'alhe Levona, 2 at Security force at Hirbat Aliah, at least 1 at Kever Rachel, 3 near J'aba at vehicles.
*Engineeering force near Han Unis in Gaza went on a explosive device
Rocket fall near kibbutz Sh'ar Hanegev, 2 fell in Arb occupied land
Judea Region; Rock attacks: Policeman Square hevron, Pharmacy checkpost, Hevron, El Fuar, near Maon, Halhul
Etzion Region: Violent demonstrations including rock attacks near Efrat, rock blockade and attacks El Arub, Bet Umar, Tekoa, El Hadar, violent demonstrations El Aidiya Refugee Camp near Kever Rachel,near Carmei Zur, Bet Umar, Har Homa Tekoa Highway.
Benjamin Region: Llubin A-Shrakia, Rentis, Harmaia Valley, Turmous Aya, Sen'jal, near Natuf Quarry, Abud Bypass, between Adam and Hizma
Shomron Rregion: near Ma'aleh Shomron, near Tapuah, near Emmanuel, Git Avishar Junction, near Peduel, Gilad Highway, Azun.

Ynet similarly reproduced the 'victims' article thus:

Families of the victims of an Israeli raid on a Turkish flotilla on Saturday spoke out against compensation talks between Turkey and Israel, saying the Jewish state must first fully lift its blockade of the Gaza Strip.

Even had the wording been left as is, the journalists involved might have taken a few seconds to mention that the IHH 'charity' which organised the flotilla in the first place is an islamist terror organisation which also carries out turkish foreign policy. IHH has been involved in the chechniyan conflict, and is now involved in gun running to the islamist rebels in Syria.

"Free Syrian Army commanders have told The Times that a boat containing weapons that docked in Syria this week was registered to members of the IHH, which has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Michal Shmulovich who is writing for a website that is not known to be anti-Israel, can not claim to be ignorant of the facts, so why does she reproduce anti-Israel propaganda for the Times of Israel?  Does Michal Shmulovich care that she reposts stories designed to besmirch Israel, evidently not.

Is Michal Shmulovich proud of herself? More likely she's proud of her paycheck. Israel go hang.

Shmulovich can however claim that she is not alone, that as Ynet shows, nearly all israeli journalists are cut from the same cloth as herself. When a mosque was burned in Israel, arabs accused settlers, and of course israeli journalists, forgetting all their training, their duty to investigate, rushed to condemn their own country. The facts came out later as I and others wrote about, based mainly on the hard work of one israeli blogger.

The mosque burning had everything to do with arab crime, and nothing to do with Israel.

And Tuba Zangriya was not the only time this has happened. Many other incidents have routinely been blamed on jews, often by the Catholic Church representatives in Israel along with the New (anti-) Israel Fund stooges.

But rabbis and the Israeli President Peres and others had already joined in the chorus of condemnation, using the hated settlers as a scapegoat. They think that hatred of israel deflected onto jews of Judea and Samaria can protect Israel, but they are wrong. The only protection for Israel is to get the truth out about the jihad inspired campaign against it in the world, to inform the non jewish world that the so called 'palestinian'-Israel conflict is the conflict of western civilization against arab radical islamic barbarism.
Those who would bring down Israel have europe and the USA in their sights after the defeat of Israel.

When israeli journalists trouble to go to Judea and Samaria they report from the palestinian arab side showing a bias towards an enemy they don't even take the trouble understand.

Ideologically indoctrinated israeli journalists think that sacrificing jews living in the ancient jewish homelands of Judea and Samaria will bring peace closer. It won't. It will however bring closer the siting of missiles on the hills overlooking the narrow waist of Israel, along the destruction of their homes in Tel-Aviv.

Tell israeli liberals sitting in their cafes on Dizengoff streeet in Tel-Aviv that and they'll think you're mad. Who says that people learn from history. They don't.

After the apology Turkey plans the next provocations, and Syria enters the next stage

After Israel's craven apology to  Turkey the turkish pm Erdogan is on a high. To rub salt in the wound he has said that this is just the start, and that  a trip to Gaza is in the offing. Of course there is never an end when Israel gives concessions or land. Further demands follow as night follows day. You can take your pick for examples such as when Israel withdrew from Lebanon in 200 (recognized as a full withdrawal by the UN) we then heard about the Sheva Farms and other villages from 1948. And when Israel froze all settlement in order to help sweeten the atmosphere for talks with palestinian arabs for 10 months (after Obama's arm twisting) Abbas decided he didn't need to talk with Israel as everything was cosy enough in Judea and Samaria (remember that interview with Diel in Wapo?).


From Turkey's Huriyet news:

Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh had already announced March 22, hours after Israel’s apology, that Erdoğan would visit Gaza in the near future.

Taher al-Nunu, spokesman for Ismael Haniyeh, the head of the Hamas government in the Gaza, confirmed that "Recep Tayyip Erdogan will soon visit the Gaza Strip where he will meet with Prime Minister (Haniyeh)".

Yet again Israel has been forced by the USA to give in to arab and muslim terror, for what gain? The more Obama reduces his own country's stature and that of Israel the more muslim terrorists of which Erdogan is a main sponsor, will be emboldened.

Nunu said that Erdogan had called exiled Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal "to tell him Israel had accepted Turkey's conditions: apologies for the murder of the Turkish militants, recognition of (Israel's) responsibility and the lifting of the embargo".

However, Erdoğan was cautious regarding the restoration of diplomatic ties by the appointment of ambassadors.  “We will see what will be put into practice during the process. If they move forward in a promising way, we will make our contribution. Then, there would be an exchange of ambassadors,” he said, adding that the amount of the compensation would be determined by the competent bodies.

And after Israel's apology to a country where anti-semitism is promoted on state media and which has fomented terror against Israel, we see that nothing has changed. Turkey is going to consider whether to restore ties, i.e. look for the next pretexts to reduce the relationship to where the islamists AKP and Erdogan want it. Netanyahu is no fool, he knows that Erdogan has Israel in his sights, Netanyahu knows full well that Turkey is no longer the secular country of Attaturk, but an islamist state that is stoking the fires in Syria next door, that is conducting exercises with the Egyptian navy, which is doing its best to create an islamist ring of states around Israel to throttle it at some future date.

There is no good to be had by showing weakness to islamist countries, but Obama is deaf to all this, just as is Britain and France. All three powers are doing their best, via the good offices of Turkey to supply the islamist sunnis in Syria with all the weapons and training they need to bring Assad down.

And because of this otherwise lunatic policy of helping the West's bitter islamist enemies (Turkey is still a member of Nato, privy to its secrets, funding and all the rights conferred on members not to mention armaments and military help) in fighting Assad, the conflict will not end but be intensified.

How can Western countries even think that Assad is going to be forced out by their helping sunni islamists?
The sunni-shia fault line running through Syria means only that the war will become ever more brutal, and will suck in ever more fighters from both the sunni and shia camps. The internecine civil war in Syria is now and international war of muslims, the Islamic World War in the making.

Israel today took incoming fire with fire hitting a military patrol's jeeps, but luckily there were no casualties. Israel is on high alert on the Golan Heights, but the danger is not so much to Israel but stability in the whole islamic world, most notably in the middle east.

Lebanon which is seeing daily fighting in Tripoli between rival shia and sunni factions is set to 'blow' according to one observer. Lebanon which could have been a peaceful oasis in the middle east has through its determination to never have peace with Israel, has instead determined its own instability and probable destruction as an independent entity, if it has ever been that.

One thing Obama, Cameron and Hollande should know is that Assad might come or go, but the war will go on, because the alawite regime in Syria actively backed by Iran and Hezbollah, supported by Iraq, Russia and China can not fall, whilst Turkey, Egypt, Qatar and Saudi Arabia can not allow the shia to gain ascendancy in the region. 

Obama's last present to Israel was to force it to lose face yet again, in a region where Israel needs its deterrance buttressed. But then Obama, scion of Rashid Khalidi and Edward Said never was about increasing Israel's security but within the context of a US people who are pro-Israel, in reducing that security whilst professing to protect it.